Floating Sun » email http://floatingsun.net Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:53:26 +0000 en-US hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 Throw away mailing lists http://floatingsun.net/2010/04/29/throw-away-mailing-lists/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=throw-away-mailing-lists http://floatingsun.net/2010/04/29/throw-away-mailing-lists/#comments Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:51:08 +0000 Diwaker Gupta http://floatingsun.net/?p=1266 Related posts:
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Have you ever found yourself in a situation where you are on a mailing list and you want to send an email to all but 2 members on that list? A common case here is planning a surprise for someone on that list.

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In general, I find myself on (long) email threads containing a different subset of people for different occasions (birthdays, anniversaries etc) several times a year. The email threads quickly become long and unwieldy. People keep adding other people as the thread progresses, and the only way the new adds can figure out whats going on is looking at the content of future emails. There is no way for anyone to go back and read all the discussion so far.

That got me thinking, wouldn’t it be great to have a service that provide throw away mailing lists? Hear me out. Here’s how the service would work:

  • To start a new mailing list, I simply send an email to newlist@mycoolservice.com. In the email, I also include a list of email addresses I want to seed the list with.
  • The service sends me back the address of a newly created throw away list. This could be of the form some-random-number@googlegroups.com.
  • For all practical purposes, this is exactly like any other mailing list (or Google Group). We can add more members, search the messages etc.
  • Start your discussion and let the thoughts flow.
  • At some point, the purpose behind the list will cease to exist (successful surprise, for instance). Needless to add, further discussions on the topic will also cease.
  • You forget you even created this mailing list. After the mailing list has been idle for some time (say two weeks), the service automatically deletes the mailing list. Any future messages to that address will bounce back saying that the list has been deleted, please contact the administrator.

Does anyone else think this could be useful?

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What did you do last year? http://floatingsun.net/2008/01/03/what-did-you-do-last-year/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=what-did-you-do-last-year http://floatingsun.net/2008/01/03/what-did-you-do-last-year/#comments Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:10:11 +0000 Diwaker Gupta http://floatingsun.net/2008/01/03/what-did-you-do-last-year Related posts:
  1. This time last year
  2. End of year musings
  3. (Happy) New Year?
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Happy new year y’all!

The past couple of days my feed reader has been chock full of posts about one of the following: the year in review, predictions for 2008, reflections and introspections. So much so that I got tired of reading about the “new year” and never got around to writing MY end of the year post, but I’m sure the world didn’t miss much. But I did run into an interesting problem as I was thinking about what could have been my end of the year post: exactly what all did I do last year?

So I started by writing down all the months, the idea being that I would put down all the significant events that happened in any given month next to it. The hope is that there aren’t that many of them so the list should be fairly manageable. Now, I have always known that my memory is not that great, and that is why I tend to rely on tools to do the dirty book keeping for me: calendars, todo lists, reminders etc. But it was still a little shocking when I couldn’t immediately recall what I did in lets say May of last year. Of course I did remember things once I thought about it a little bit, often relying on context (what happened before May, after May etc).

The bottom line is that it wasn’t as easy as I thought it would be. For some months, I actually had to go back to my email inbox and other digital archives to figure out the salient happenings. This got me thinking about **personal information analysis and visualization**. And the more I thought about it, the more excited I became.

I was actually surprised to find such little information on the web about this. With our increasing information overload, cheap storage, and tons of archived data (online and offline), I think this space has tremendous potential for both academic and commercial ventures. For instance, here’s a really simple thing I want to be able to do: for a given time period (say 2007), I want to analyze and visualize all of my emails so that I can quickly figure out:
* who did I communicate with the most?
* what were the main topics I wrote about?

I couldn’t find any open source tool to do even this. And my initial Googling hasn’t turned up much in commercial offerings either. The closest thing I could find was a project called [[http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~fviegas/projects/themail/study/index.htm|themail]] from MIT Media Labs, but there’s no code that I can download. Then there is [[http://carohorn.de/anymails/|Anymails]], but it seems just a cool visualization, and not a lot of information (specially the kind I want).

If you know about any free or paid tools that can do this kind of analysis, please drop a line in the comments. And while you are at it, try to think about what YOU did all of last year :-)

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Stop AOL’s “email tax” http://floatingsun.net/2006/03/02/stop-aols-email-tax/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=stop-aols-email-tax http://floatingsun.net/2006/03/02/stop-aols-email-tax/#comments Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:15:38 +0000 Diwaker Gupta http://floatingsun.net/blog/2006/03/02/594/ Related posts:
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STOP AOL's Email Tax

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GMail does From addresses! http://floatingsun.net/2005/08/23/gmail-does-from-addresses/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gmail-does-from-addresses http://floatingsun.net/2005/08/23/gmail-does-from-addresses/#comments Tue, 23 Aug 2005 02:30:05 +0000 Diwaker Gupta http://floatingsun.net/blog/2005/08/23/137/ Accounts This is //so// cool! ]]>
Woooooooohoooooooooooo!

Gmail now allows you to specify alternate “From” addresses. In Gmail, go to Settings -> Accounts

This is //so// cool!

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Not a chance http://floatingsun.net/2005/07/27/not-a-chance/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=not-a-chance http://floatingsun.net/2005/07/27/not-a-chance/#comments Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:27:58 +0000 Diwaker Gupta http://floatingsun.net/blog/2005/07/27/not-a-chance/ Related posts:
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It is because I keep coming across stories like [[http://www.yepthatsme.com/2005/07/24/apple-mail-in-tiger-can-kiss-it/|this]], that I don’t think I will ever be able to embrace Apple. I just don’t understand — here you have a [[http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/mail/ | nice email app]] (or so I’ve heard) and email is one of the few things that has been standardized to death on the Internet due to the simple fact that people like to read their email //anywhere, everywhere, all the time//.

So why, oh why does Apple has to go around inventing proprietary formats for storing local mail? Why can’t they use the excellent [[http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html|Maildir]] format, when almost every other email client in the world does it? The excuse that this format is //optimised// for [[http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/spotlight/|Spotlight]] is bullshit. They brag so much about their API for enabling Spotlight support in applications, then why couldn’t they just write a backend for Maildir files (the way [[http://beaglewiki.org/Main_Page|Beagle]] does!)

Also, apparently this change is new to Tiger, and so old Mac OSX users are affected too. Even if they decided to change the format, is it too much to ask that the software confirms with the user before doing the upgrade, or atleast //informs// the user that something drastic is happening to his/her files? So much for desiging good user interfaces. Sheesh! Why don’t these people ever learn?

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Faking from address http://floatingsun.net/2005/07/16/faking-from-address/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=faking-from-address http://floatingsun.net/2005/07/16/faking-from-address/#comments Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:12:40 +0000 Diwaker Gupta http://floatingsun.net/blog/2005/07/16/faking-from-address/ Related posts:
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As I was setting up my user account at Apache, I ran into a seemingly easy problem. Apache gives us a fowarding account, not a POP/IMAP account. Which is perfectly fine as far as receiving email is concerned. But now I would also like to send email using the apache.org email address as well.

A few years back, this wasn’t a problem at all. SMTP by itself didn’t have (still doesn’t) any notion of security. So you could fake any email address you want in the envelope, and SMTP would happily deliver it for you. However, with the proliferation of spam on the Internet, ISPs and SMTP servers have become very wary of faked from addresses.

What does a fake from address really mean? For most purposes, it simply means that the domain of the from address and the domain that the mail originated in don’t match up. A lot of ISPs only relay mails through their own mail servers (and block port 25 for any other mail servers). Their own mail servers frequently restrict from addresses to be the one that the ISP gave you. A large number of organizations have started using [[http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys|DomainKeys]] or [[http://spf.pobox.com/|SPF]], which makes faking a sender address even harder.

Gmail allows sending messages through their SMTP servers using your gmail account, but no matter what sender address you put in there, it gets substituted by your gmail address. So thats no good is it?

Ideally, I think there should be a decoupling between owenership and authentication. Each email address has a unique owner, multiple email addresses can have the same owner. Then SMTP should authenticate the owner, not the email address. Of course its easier said than done. I’ll think about it a bit more and write something more thought out later on.

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Email wars http://floatingsun.net/2004/06/15/email-wars/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=email-wars http://floatingsun.net/2004/06/15/email-wars/#comments Tue, 15 Jun 2004 06:53:29 +0000 Diwaker Gupta http://floatingsun.net/blog/?p=169 Related posts:
  1. On email obfuscation
  2. GMail does From addresses!
  3. Whats with gmail anyways?
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* Gmail == 1 GB
* Aventure Mail == 2 GB
* Yahoo! Plus == Virtually Unlimited Storage (2 GB)
* Lycos == 1 GB

Thanks to Gmail, a lot of non-Gmail users are also going to be able to enjoy larger storage space for their inboxes. Yahoo! is deploying larger inboxes for both free and premium email members over the summers. A mostly obscure Aventure Mail is offering 2GB for free for the first 10000 customers.

I thought the way people were buying and selling and swapping Gmail accounts was almost ridiculous. I mean, Gmail is so hot simply because it symbolises “cool” — I’m not sure how many people are after Gmail from the point of view of its utility or functionality. But where is all this going to lead? I mean what after 1GB? And how does this impact spam?

With Yahoo’s anti-spam proposal gaining momentum, we’re hoping that the amount of spam will reduce in the future. But it seems to me that more storage for inboxes might also imply more spam as well. Though that relationship is quite obscure, its more like a gut feeling. As Gmail suggests, archive, don’t delete.

Most people I know hate spam because they have to delete the stuff manually. If spam filtering really becomes effective, at what point will spam stop being a PITA, if at all it ever will. If you look at the most popular networking applications through the decades, starting in the 1970′s, you’ll see that email has been a constant contender. And it still remains, and will probably remain for the next decade as well.

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