Comments on: Enough with Linux as a second class citizen! http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen Sat, 11 May 2013 19:51:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: David N. Welton http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-36015 David N. Welton Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:06:52 +0000 http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-36015 Uh, oops… the wrong URL came out. The one I wanted to mention was at http://www.leenooks.com – the other one is an Italian site that showcases stores that sell computers with Linux preinstalled. It’s been well received too, but obviously is limited to Italy:-)

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By: Diwaker Gupta http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-35293 Diwaker Gupta Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:23:12 +0000 http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-35293 *@david*: Looks cool, thanks! But its in Spanish :-) Are you planning an English/i18n version anytime soon?

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By: David N. Welton http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-34199 David N. Welton Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:39:45 +0000 http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-34199 Hi,

One little bit in the battle that I have helped to start and maintain is the Linux Incompatibility List, at http://www.linuxsi.com. Basically, it’s a list of stuff that doesn’t work with Linux, and that as a consequence you should avoid.

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By: Diwaker Gupta http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-34079 Diwaker Gupta Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:04:57 +0000 http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-34079 *@xed*: Good point. Someone needs to teach these people marketing! I mean even video game consoles have Linux on them these days. So do a lot of the networking equipment, wireless routers, printers and what not. And actually Apple really confuses me. I mean barring their recent announcement and disclosure of some binary formats, Microsoft has had a long history of being anti F/OSS, so they don’t surprise me. Apple, however, seems to be playing a double cross game. On the one hand, they act really nice and friendly to the open source community, and actually have benefited _tremendously_ from things like Darwin, Mach, FreeBSD, Ruby, KHTML and DTrace to name a few. But on the other hand, they go back and stab us in the back by _actively_ making it harder for people to use their hardware with non-Apple software (iPods, iPhone) and their software with other software by using weird formats of their own (Mail.app)

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By: Richard Chapman http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-34077 Richard Chapman Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:47:25 +0000 http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-34077 I like your post. You ask some good questions. I’d like to offer my explanation for one of them.

“But then why does Apple release Safari for Windows and Mac only?” The answer is in your question. Steve Jobs has nothing to fear from Microsoft. He is much smarter than Steve Ballmer. He has outsmarted them at every turn in spite of the fact that Microsoft dwarfs Apple in size and resources. But Steve Jobs has everything to fear from Open Source and Linux. He knows we can’t be defeated using traditional business practices. My guess is that he is hoping that Open Source will effectively eliminate Microsoft from the market place and then he can make a “land grab” with Apple. So he wants to keep Linux at a distance as a competitor, but feed it enough so it can dispatch Microsoft. I laugh at Steve Ballmer (along with a lot of other people), I fear Steve Jobs.

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By: Chris X http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-34076 Chris X Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:34:29 +0000 http://floatingsun.net/2008/03/18/enough-with-linux-as-a-second-class-citizen/#comment-34076 The absurd evidence makes me wonder about coercion from software entities more powerful than Linux. I have seen many retail boxes of completely platform-agnostic devices that have MSFT and AAPL logos on them, but no Linux endorsement. On something like a USB drive which obviously is going to work on Linux, omitting the free-to-use cute penguin just seems like a martketing faux pas. People who really don’t know anything would be assured that this devices works with things they don’t even know about. And for those who recognize Linux’s branding, it will assure them that competent people, i.e. Linux users, use this device. To leave Linux off the list unnecessarily really makes me wonder. You can imagine the owner of a copyrighted branding saying, “It’s the penguin *or* us.”

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